We love the maple grove community Center pool but live in Plymouth so an addition of a pool would be awesome!
Even though this will bring value to the community I think the Tax base is too much. I most likely will never use any of the space other then voting and walking through the garden.
What is the cost to use these amenities? Lifetime fitness is right next door, why would we pay for lifetime and this community center?
Gyms and a walking track would be a huge asset for the community
This is an unnecessary raise in property taxes. There are existing facilities that provide everything you are proposing that are easily accessible from our community.
There is a huge need for school aged kids to have access to gyms for basketball, vollyball, indoor sports year round. I know this is more community based, but this is a huge need in this area
This proposed renovation and expansion is very important for a large and growing community like Plymouth. A great number of people have stated that Plymouth is behind peer cities in NOT having these facilities and amenities.
No. No. No. Stop this ridiculous waste of OUR money now. It's not needed. I don't want to spend $100+/year forever to provide indoor playground space or more rooms for seniors. Lifetime Fitness is available to Plymouth residents (by the way they have an indoor kids tumbling "gym" already in a converted racquetball court). Lunds has free community rooms if seniors need more space. DO NOT DO THIS.
Keep having the ability to have community classes there.
I would like to see Table Tennis facility in the indoor gymnasium. This is a good fitness and fun game and will have a lot of participation from the community.
The return on investment for me as a homeowner/taxpayer on this expansion is very low and I would propose to see something much better proposed. Something like a really nice indoor flower garden space/green space. Or more arts, theater, painting, and music. I feel like everything offered is about sports and playgrounds and there are already tons of parks and trails that we already pay taxes for and I'd like to see something else offered from the community center that isn't already offered somewhere else closer to my house. Give me a reason to actually come there. Invest in an annual community musical theater event every summer like New Hope does with "off broadway musical theater". Do something different that isn't already offered through Lifetime Fitness or Parks and Rec or Wayzata Community Ed or the many many many trails and parks we already have.
Hopeful that groups that serve people in our community (east Plymouth, included) will be given priority access to the new facilities
An improved Plymouth Center is a value add for real estate values. Most of our neighboring communities have more significant community centers.
Can some of this funding be via required membership to different parts of the community center (ie pay for what you use)?
Plymouth is a wonderful city to live in with such a great community. An improved space would help foster that community engagement and allow for additional activities to be available to residents.
I think a pool should be strongly considered, just as other surrounding community centers have. LifeTime Fitness has costly membership fees that many people cannot afford.
I am sure we need a space like a community hall. Secondly, we need a good swimming facility as well like Orono School. Lifetime Fitness charges premium to join a swim team or lessons. One family has to pay for their membership first and then additional fees for swimming. This is simply loot.
I have heard that some of the spaces (like the indoor playground) would be fee-based access. Given our climate, a safe indoor community place to gather and play is important to me and I'm supportive of helping provide this community amenity through my taxes. However, I'm not willing to support it with taxes AND usage fees. Usage fees should be limited to the spaces/activities that bear additional costs (i.e., materials or instructors for STEM or art classes or special events), not fixed playground equipment.
I am excited for an updated community center. I believe the indoor playground is a great amenity for the community. I am willing to increase my taxes & pay program fees.
I strongly support improving the community center, especially adding gym space.
Winters and long and hard. These facilities enable our community to continue to be strong and healthy
Strongly discourage the city to add spaces that directly compete with private owned community options. The function of our government shouldn't be to compete with our business partners. If there is a need, partner with them to provide the service or facility. The partnerships with Lifetime fitness have been a great strategy to offer facilities and services to the community with little impact to the city budget compared to the city shouldering the load. Do not build or renovate additional spaces that compete with the city's private catering and hospitality businesses. Do not build gymnasiums when the cities private businesses have these offerings. The city should stay in it's lane. Focus on delivering great infalstructure and public safety. Do not borrow money for this project. The city cannot talk from both sides of its mouth. Adding additional debt and or raising taxes flies in the face of it's fiscal conservatism it likes to tout. Can't have it both ways.
It upsets me that we aren’t seriously considering being a green step community because it might cost money (many items are free and/or save money), are turning down affordable housing projects and then putting this project forward.
Having facilities available that do not require a health club membership is an asset to a community like ours. It would also be nice to add fitness stations around the track
Plymouth is quickly falling behind on community amenities, outdoor activity spaces, and recreation facilities (except for ice arenas with their mind-boggling costs and whose benefits go to only a few, increasingly mediocre hockey teams). Wayzata and Providence hockey associations can pay their own way. Redirect funds from PIC to Plymouth Creek Center so that we can have a multi-use facility that draws young families to the area.
Would strongly support an activities center like what neighboring community Orono just completed (i.e. multiple basketball/volleyball courts, competition level track as well as weight and exercise areas for the public. https://youtu.be/sjWrvQ3eqjE
I’m not a Plymouth resident, so the tax questions do not apply to me. Our youth lacrosse groups use PCC space winter and summer. Any space added in our communities for all ages to enjoy is beneficial!
In general the fitness facilities at Lifetime are very good -- however the enforcement/intepretation of the city's lease with lifetime is such that they can make it as difficult as possible to use the facilities as a resident (you have to take a sales tour, you have to fill out a waiver from scratch each time, you're not allowed to bring in prefilled out copies, they limit the hours Plymouth residents can use the facilities even when they are otherwise open). Rather than duplicating some of those facilities across the park I would rather see a more community centered policy enforced at the Lifetime so it is more useful to residents. I fully support enhancing the community center as well.
This is a terrific opportunity for the City Council and city staff, with input from the community, to continue Plymouth's record of responsible financial planning for facilities and services to serve the needs our growing and changing population.
Adding as much gymnasium space as possible is important to support the growing community and the recreational activities the City of Plymouth and the various associations offer to the residents. So many surrounding communities have very nice indoor facilities to support activities, basketball tournaments, and other events. Plymouth is long overdue to provide this as well.
As the size and needs of the city change, so should the city's community center. The community center should reflect the commitment of the city and residents to their needs.
These are excellent ideas for the community!
While I think as a community resources are a perk, we wouldn’t be likely to use them. Our kids are teenagers.
For most of the perspective amenities, it seems like private enterprise could provide if there is enough demand in the community. I don't get it.
Many small cities in Minnesota have committed to expensive projects like this which require maintenance and permanent tax increases, in addition to the initial costs. They find themselves in financial trouble with this type of commitment. I don't understand how this $50 million project fits within the role of city government. Many of these services are already available at Lifetime Fitness right next door. I'm all for parks and community, but this is far beyond the responsibility of the city. The city's own documents indicate that the city has grown by 13,000 people since the original Center was built. That does not justify a project of this scale.
NO NEW TAXES! Private funding. Naming rights and/or user fees. I would unconditionally support the US Bank Plymouth Community Center.
NO NEW TAXES. Private funding only. Naming rights. I would fully support the US Bank Plymouth Community Center.
Really would be interested in a community pool.
This would be a great thing for the community of Plymouth.
For a nominal annual increase in property taxes, much needed amenities could be added to our wonderful community. It would increase the quality of life for all who chose to use it. I think it's a fantastic idea.
When Lifetime was built it was touted as a private city partnership and that it would take the place of a Plymouth Community Center. I was a member for 20 years. And these past 10 years I have occasionally used Lifetime at a Plymouth resident rate but it never felt like community. For some reason Maple Grove was able to meld LIfetime and a community center feel. Maybe it is the indoor playground. That being said Plymouth needs a community center and this plan seems to be building on that idea!
I love several of the new ideas; especially the proposed wellness/fitness/education spaces, indoor kids playground, and indoor walking track to support the growing size of our community! I like a middle ground approach of adopting select new amenities to add without over running the beautiful green space/gardens/fields that currently surround the Plymouth Creek Center. Thanks!
A dedicated indoor walking track and/or fitness spaces would greatly impact the health of our community, especially on poor weather days of rain, snow and cold (about 9 months of the year!)
More gym space!!!! We should be on par with Eden Prairie, Edina, or Maple Grove community centers. We have a huge youth basketball and volleyball program in Plymouth and there is never enough gym space.
I don't understand why you want to more than double the space of this facility already. I think the scope of the project is too big. Plymouth doesn't need to offer EVERYTHING for EVERYONE. There are other options available in local schools and neighboring communities and I would rather see my property taxes spent elsewhere.
Complete waste of money. You are completely out of touch with your residents. What about something for the east side of 494? Four Seasons mall is a disgrace. Hwy 55 to 169 needs a sense of community and belonging
Our community of youth is growing at such a tremendous rate and we desperately need indoor space for them to a run, practice their sports, exercise, etc. We should not have to belong to a gym and pay that type of membership when we live in such a beautiful suburb. We NEED to add more indoor space!!
Stem education is what will benefit the community the most
City is in need of these updates with a growing community and an abundance of children's programs in need of space.
A walking track is all that is needed. There are other places in our community for the other things.
There is a need for inexpensive or free small meeting rooms for community groups such as book groups and family celebrations.
This renovation helps the community especially during winter :)
I'd like to see the city / council consider developing some community space at the former Four Seasons Mall space. This space has been dormant for too long and development proposals to-date have been ill-suited to the site and/or the community needs. A vibrant, but sometimes-neglected, portion of Plymouth lies east of 494. There are many young families as well as a growing senior community in this area.
With the steadily growing community here I believe improved and expanded facilities are justified and necessary. Other facilities in Maple Grove and Shakopee with new gymnasium/activity spaces seem to thrive in hosting tournaments, practices and leagues. I’d think this large and expanding community and all of the the teams/clubs/events here would help provide a steady revenue stream.
This is a community want, not a need. As such, it should not be funded with taxpayer funds especially as most are likely to benefit significantly from this project. The city should be able to fund this with existing funds if they feel the need is that great.
This is an important resource for our community and I support it.
Plymouth takes such pride in their Parks systems and yet we have the WORST Baseball field at the High School and Legion level. Go to some of these towns and they have beautiful parks that are huge draws and NOT embarrassing. Between Wayzata School District and Plymouth Parks we need to have a decent Ball Park facility before renovating a 20 year old Community Center
I like the overall concept of improving the Plymouth Creek Center. I think a $50 million dollar price tag is high for what is being contemplated. If all of the improvements cannot be done for something far less than that, I think you need to prioritize based on community "needs" and not "wants". There is a lot of gym space and playground areas in our community. I also believe all members of the community will benefit equally from this and it isn't fair that those living in higher priced homes bear a greater percentage of the cost. As the plan and cost stands now, including the suggested allocation of cost, I would vote "no" for this project.
Look at all the other surrounding communities, they have added amazing gym space. Bring people into the community which increases business.
Our family mainly uses the field space for Lacrosse and the walking track. We have used the theatre space and taken classes held there in the past as well. I appreciate the community center for the spaces they have available for different groups to utilize.
Most of the proposed plans already exist in our community. Might be better to subsidize memberships to Lifetime or something different. I'll be disappointed if I'm forced to pay for something that already exists in other forms.
This is long overdue and will be of great benefit to the community
Community amenities are important. My family would especially use an indoor playground - we currently travel 20 minutes or more to go to indoor playgrounds in neighboring cities in the winter. One within a 5 minute drive would be amazing.